Run MacOS 9 on an Intel Mac
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Who said you can’t use MacOS9 because you have an Intel Mac? It is completely possible with a little bit of tinkering, and a really cool universal application called Sheep Shaver, which came to us via tip from Kazaki. Sheep Shaver is a full speed ‘Classic’ emulator for Windows, Linux, and Intel based Macs, that runs older MacOS’s at shockingly full speed!
For the purposes of this tutorial, we will only illustrate how to run the classic environment on Intel Macs, but you can do this procedure on other OS’es as well. So lets teach your fancy Mactel a new, old trick.
- Download a copy of the universal binary Sheep Shaver and unzip it to a folder on your Mac.
- For the application to emulate the MacOS, you need a ROM for this program to act like a Mac. Thankfully Apple has helped us with this task. On their website they kinda make one available to download. The catch is that you need MacOS 9 to access the ROM, however with a little searching I found a ROM available to download, and fully compatible with Sheep Shaver here. (However if you want to extract your own ROM from the one on Apples server, you need to use TomeViewer)
- After you download the ROM, copy the file into the Sheep Shaver folder
- Open the Sheep Shaver GUI Application

- Click on the Memory/Misc tab, and click browse next to the ROM file field, and locate the MacOS ROM file that you stored in the Sheep Haver folder
- Also bump the MacOS RAM Size to at least 128MB
- The next step is to create a MacOS 9 volume to store your files. Click on the Volumes tab, and click Create.
- Save the new virtual volume to your Sheep Shaver folder, and I would suggest you make the image size at least 200 MB
- Once that is finished put your MacOS 8 or MacOS 9 CD in your Intel Mac and press the Start button. (If you don’t have an old MacOS disc floating around, Apple has an archive of full vintage operating systems available to download)
- Sheep Shaver will now launch the Universal version of Sheep Shaver and you can begin to install your OS
- You only need to run Sheep Shaver GUI once to setup your virtual machine, after that setup you can just simply launch Sheep Shaver
I noticed the speed on this emulator is REALLY fast, and creates a viable operating environment for any of your really old classic applications, also the emulator has access to your MacOS X drive so the exchange of files are really easy. However, sometimes Sheep Shaver required a forced quit to turn off, milage may vary.
Enjoy, and drop a comment to let us know if you have any questions.
The ROM downloads linked in this hint are all provided by Apple, and not hosted on this blog. Update: We ammended the title of the article.
319 Comments, Comment or Trackback
Newton
Does the serial interface, or the ethernet work from this setup?
Aug 21st, 2006
Adam
I must be missing something here, but how can I get SheepShaver to see my 7.0.1 smi disk image?
Aug 21st, 2006
Adam
Never mind, figured it out :-)
Aug 21st, 2006
Edward
Are we stuck with 9.04 or can we go up to 9.1 and 9.2?
Aug 21st, 2006
Dan
I havn’t gotten 9.2 to load, but I have had success with 9.1
Aug 21st, 2006
philip
Why doesn’t Apple themselves make this available for the Intel Macs. I am putting off getting an Intel mac until I can get one of my “classic” apps ported over to OS X.
Aug 21st, 2006
Dan
I don’t know why. I have been getting wonderful speeds on this application.
Aug 21st, 2006
pistooli
for the 9.1 disc I receive an error “The startup disk will not work on this Macintosh model. Use the latest Installer to update this disk for this model.” how did you manage to get 9.1 installed? :-)
Aug 21st, 2006
Ginny
I’m not quite as adept with macs yet - how is it that i use the downloaded 7.0.1 with this? I get the machine to start but it can’t see anything to boot from and just gives me a blinking floppy cursor
Aug 21st, 2006
Dan
I assume you are doing this on an Intel Mac
Aug 21st, 2006
Latenightmac
Can anyone post the file mentioned above:
I found a ROM available to download, and fully compatible with Sheep Shaver here.
The file sharing system is overloaded and not wanting to downoad it for me!
Aug 21st, 2006
Myles
So how are people getting Sheepshaver to recognize the 7.0.1 install image?
Aug 21st, 2006
pistooli
Dan,
do you need any extra magic to make the 9.1 work? and what… :-) many thanks…
Aug 21st, 2006
Ginny
Intel Mac - yes
Aug 21st, 2006
nak
To philip: I think Steve Jobs put it best at WWDC 2005 when he said “the transition is complete”. I paraphrase, OS 9 is the past, OS X is the future.
OS 9 still has some very useful apps, and I miss it from time-to-time. However, Apple wants to move forward, in the same way Microsoft recently EOL’d 98 and Me. As I recall, the law says a product must be supported for 7 years. Apple’s done that with OS 9.
I was actually able to get the “classic environment” running on my DTK. I forget exactly how I did it, but I’m going to try again on my MacBook. If I manage it, I’ll post instructions at my site (above).
Aug 21st, 2006
Ian O
Note that some legacy CDs of MacOS may be machine specific. This could cause problems trying to install. You’ll need a generic version.
By coincidence, Low End Mac are lamenting the loss of access to legacy apps with Intel Macs. This will be a great breakthrough for schools who are still getting good mileage out of some of the old programs.
Aug 21st, 2006
Paul
How does one get it working with a Disk Image downloaded from Apple? I’m trying (like others) to get it working with the 7.0.1 Image available for free, but just get the flashing floppy disk with a big “?” on it….
Is there some step we’re all missing?
Aug 21st, 2006
Elan
I downloaded the Mac OS 9.0.4 Update.smi but I’m not sure if that’s all I need, and if it is, how to get the emulator to boot off it it. I added it as a volume, but the emulator still blinks “floppy icon” at me.
Aug 21st, 2006
GRF
Dilemma - the link given as the Apple site for downloading OS 9 is valid, but not the content - the link is for OS 9 updates only. You have to start with System 9.0 to update, which leaves us to tracking down a copy of of OS 9. Any solutions?
Aug 21st, 2006
Joseph
yes, I’d like to know how to get the 7.0.1 image to work too
Aug 21st, 2006
Matthew Lam
SheepShaver runs MacOS 7.5.2 thru MacOS 9.0.4
Aug 21st, 2006
dmydlack
Great possibilities,
Big Question: the OS 8 installer screen does not find a valid existing volume and prompts me to do a clean install. SHOUL !? Is there any danger to my existing OSX?
Thanks again. Waiting for a sign.
Aug 21st, 2006
Yong Hwee
Does it work with PPC? Woud I need it in the first place since it runs OS9?
Aug 21st, 2006
Neal Saferstein
How are the graphics performance?
Neal Saferstein
Aug 21st, 2006
Dan
If you do a new volume as specified in the instructions you should be more then fine. But I must say as a full disclaimer that before you do anything drastic on your computer you should always BACKUP!!!!!!
Neal, the graphics are okay. Kinda weak.
Aug 21st, 2006
Jesse
I’m using a os 9.0 retail disc, but all I get it is the floppy disc with a flashing “?” inside it. Any thoughts? I’m using an intel iMac 20″, with SheepShaver set to a 350 MB volume, and 256 MB RAM. Must…….play……..Barrack!
Aug 21st, 2006
BS
I have an existing volume on my old PowerPC Mac, can I copy it to the new volume? It has 9.2.2 and all my software.
Aug 21st, 2006
geo
For those getting the flashing question mark, try holding the “C” key down when you start. This makes the Mac look at the CD for install rather than from floppies.
Aug 22nd, 2006
Rory
Only classic apps I need is Myst and Riven, so when I finally upgrade to the Intel Macs, I’m going to be coming back to this page! :D
Aug 22nd, 2006
Don Redhorse
I own a Mac OS 8 Retail disk. But for this disc I receive an error “The startup disk will not work on this Macintosh model. Use the latest Installer to update this disk for this model.� Any ideas?
Aug 22nd, 2006
Adri
So now I have OS 9.0 on my machine and now I want software for it. Any sites on the net where I can find it?
Aug 22nd, 2006
Dan
That error shouldn’t be happening for a Retail disc
Aug 22nd, 2006
dmydlack
Hello,
Thanks again.
Is there a way to install an OS 9 from an existing volume (my oldie?)
Perhaps using CloneX? Which folder would the system be restored to exactly?
This is going to help my students out immensely!
Aug 22nd, 2006
tm
http://homepage.mac.com/last_modified/sheepshaver/7.5.3.gif
Aug 22nd, 2006
CS
1: I don’t have a generic OS 9 CD, only an iMac DV specific OS 9 CD. It boots, but it refuses to install.
2: I can’t figure out how to mount the OS 7 self-mounting-images from Apple’s website. I get a “not recognized” error on my MBP, and I haven’t found a way to get at the image from within SheepShaver directly.
Aug 22nd, 2006
Dan
The disk utility should be mounting the SMI’s they did for me. and the CD MUST be generic.
Aug 22nd, 2006
Dan
dmydlack - I’m not sure - I can test it if you want?
Aug 22nd, 2006
dmydlack
Thanks so much for your continued support. This is really an important piece of work unfolding here.
Aug 22nd, 2006
chipzz
I’m trying to figure out how to get this to work, but I can’t. I’m on linux (i386), and have several .dmg files as well as System_7.5.3_01of19.smi.bin from apples site, but I’m at a loss as of what to do next. I have tried adding these as volumes, as well as symlinking /dev/cdrom to these files, all to no avail. Do I need to burn these images to disk (sounds a bit silly to waste a cd-rom on?), or is there a way to get this to work without burning them. And yes I tried holding down the C key while booting. I’m always getting the screen with the floppy and the question mark.
That is, if I get anything at all, because half of the time when I hit start, I’m only getting a black window.
Aug 23rd, 2006
VRic
All versions of Mac OS before 8.1 require an HFS volume (aka “Mac OS Standard”), NOT HFS+ (aka “Mac OS Extended”).
So users trying to intall 7.0.x, 7.5.x, 7.6.x or 8.0 need to create an HFS volume first.
Versions 8.1 to 9.2.2 work on both HFS and HFS+ (HFS+ preferred).
HFS volumes of more than 2 GB would probably be bad ideas if they even happen to work.
Also keep in mind that before OSX a system folder could simply be copied like any other folder, which is simpler and faster than using the installer if you already have a pre-OSX Mac at hand to handle the copy (because Mac OS X’s Finder wouldn’t set the volume’s “blessed” folder after copying it, requiring some unneccessarily hairy workaround). To be safe you’d need a reasonably fresh and universal system folder to copy.
Aug 23rd, 2006
Mazz
When i push start after i have done the settings in GUI, the system (i run 9.0) starts up, background with lots of “cd” pictures, and then the system ask me to
“inizilize the disc, because it cant be red by the computer”.
Can i safely push the botton to initalize? If i dont, i cannot install.
Picture of the screen:
http://static.flickr.com/88/223035818_48d6073187.jpg?v=0
Aug 23rd, 2006
David McCabe
Got it running. Now just to find some cool old software to run! Any pointers or suggestions?
Aug 23rd, 2006
Tom
Hi
Doesn’t works here… using MacBook Pro 2.16 GHZ under 10.4.7
The ROM is correct and can boot from CD the Mac OS 9 but when try to install then crash always in any way.
I create correctly the image from GUI and also try the terminal command and also try .DSK. Nothing!!!! Always crash. This SheepShaver is absolutely unstable and can’t be used as a solution. No support.
Basilik works great under Mac OS X but this one not.
I try also to boot on an image with OS 8.1 pre-installed under Basilik but crash… It’s a pity… I NEVER upgrade to Mac Pro 2 AFTER running OS 9… need it for old applications that never will update to cocoa, carbon or Universal binary.
Aug 24th, 2006
TheQL
Question about LAN remains… would be great to know!
Aug 24th, 2006
Patrick
David, check out Low End Mac for some old software links:
http://www.lowendmac.com/sw.html
Aug 24th, 2006
Marc
To run the older OS’s like system 7, you need an OldWorld ROM. I don’t know which ROM (or NewWorld ROMfile) was linked to in this article, but I’m willing to bet it’s a NewWorld ROM, which is not compatible with any OS earlier than 8.1, iirc.
To get an OldWorld rom image, you need to image a REAL Mac, like a Quadra, and use that file for the ROM. These are not freely downloadable as the ROM above is, and may require a little legwork to locate.
But that’s the most likely reason you can’t get system 7 running correctly.
This page describes it in greater detail: http://www.zisman.ca/Articles/2006/LEM-Classic-on-Intel.html
Aug 24th, 2006
Ronald
Someone asked about SheepShaver and System 7.0.1. SheepShaver can emulate a PPC Mac and will only work with MaOS 8.5, 8.6, 9.0 and 9.0.4.
BasiliskII (also available as Universal binary) emulates a 68k Mac and can run earlier system versions (up to MacOS 8.1), depending on the ROM file used.
Mini vMac (separate PPC Mac and Intel Mac versions) can emulate a Mac Plus.
More about SheepShaver see:
http://www.gibix.net/dokuwiki/en:projects:sheepshaver
More about BasiliskII see:
http://www.gibix.net/dokuwiki/en:projects:basilisk2
More about Mini vMac see:
http://minivmac.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html
Forums about Mac emulation:
http://www.emaculation.com/phpBB/index.php
Aug 24th, 2006
Some guy
Seriously guys, get with the times. OS 9 is old, worthless and outdated. OSX has been out over half a DECADE. If you are still using applications that run in OS 9 you have serious attachment issues. If you find one thing you like and expect to never move from it you should just stop using computers now.
Aug 24th, 2006
sqcircle
Here’s what I found in brief testing of SheepShaver 2.3 (20060515) with Mac OS 9.0.4 and 1.6 ROM:
Things that launched:
-Internet Explorer 4.5
-TurboTax
-QuickBooks 4
-QuarkXPress 4 and 5
Things that partially worked:
-Virex gives corrupted cursor when scanning
Thing that didn’t work:
-Outlook 2001 gave the error, “The application was unable to start due to an error. Please contact customer support.�
-Office 98 launch caused SheepShaver to quit without an error.
-Maelstrom 1.4.3 gave the error “Maelstrom ran into a problem loading in the sounds file. The sounds are either not in the proper format or there wasn’t enough memory to load them in.�
-Tamale Loco comes up with a black screen
This compatibility list may also to apply to the Intel Mac version of SheepShaver:
http://mes.emuunlim.com/macemu/ssx86/working_apps.htm
Aug 24th, 2006
ClaMs
Dear Some Guy,
All I need OS 9 for are the older games which have no OSX version. Let alone an Intel one. I’d rather have such apps running natively on my Intel Mac…. but I can’t. At least this provides some help.
Same thing with windows. I need for the some of the apps it has. I didn’t get Bootcamp for the Start Menu surely.
Aug 24th, 2006
tlxreed
I’m booting from the CD just fine, but when the drive setup runs for the first time, it says the drive is locked and that there is no permission to initialize. I’ve set permissions in OS X for that directory to completely open, so I don’t know what could be wrong.
This is on an Intel iMac by the way, HFS+ formatted drive. Any suggestions appreciated.
Aug 24th, 2006
baygbm
I’m trying this on a Macbook with 2 gigs of RAM.
Once I press the start button I get an error message that says “this startup disk will not work on this Maintosh model. Use the latest Installer to update this disk for this model.” btw, I’m using OS 9.2.1 CD as my startup disk.
What now? Has anyone gotten this to work? I’d much rather run OS 9 than Windows on my Macbook.
Aug 24th, 2006
Tom
Hi… Finally -> Trash Sheep Shaver for Intel-Based Macs.
After a sucessfully installation of OS 9 then the unix hard disk that share the Mac OS X environment DESTROY any file or folder that you are planning to use under OS 9. The icon turn to white and can’t use it.
The idea is good but is FAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR of a release version. Very buggy…. the only chance we have today is to run Sheep Shaver Windows version under Parallels WorkStation 2.1 that use Windows XP as virtualization on Macs Intel Based. Yes, is a disaster…. but no chance today.
It’s a pity, but the creator of Sheep Shaver seems to unsupport this unique solution for running Mac OS 9.
Aug 24th, 2006
Roger
I downloaded the Mac_OS_ROM file and put in my SheepShaver folder. I opened the sheepshaverGUI ap but can’t work out what to do to create the the volume.
I click on “add” and get the path to my sheepshaver folder in the window. The I select “create” and I get the same navigation window. What do I do now. So I put a name “Sheepshaver_Volume” into the box, then click “ok” a file is created with this name in the sheepshaver folder.
click Start and it says “sheepshaver error can’t open ROM file”.
What is going on?
As a general rule when writing instructions please be specific, (ie do you give the new volume a name and if so what are the naming rules etc) and don’t leave out bits that seem obvious but really aren’t to everyone (or at least to moron’s like me)
Aug 24th, 2006
firewiredartist
works for me…got 8.5…to boot…really buggy…can’t connect to network,frequent crashes, hypercard and 9 to 5 reports data pro for hypercard seem to be working…but can’t print to ethernet printer because of failure to connect to network…nonetheless, I like the potential of what this could someday become as a viable way to keep Classic alive on Intel Macs…congrats on improving “how to” versus “how to” as available on SheepShaver site!
Aug 25th, 2006
zeker00
Newbie here - have a MacPRO coming in that I would dearly love to run VisualFoxPro 3.0 on in Classic mode (Parallels not supporting at this time). Any/all guidance on getting SheepShaver in place & working would be appreciated! MacPro is 3GHz model with 8GB RAM and PLENTY of hard disk space available.
Aug 25th, 2006
albabe
can’t get it to install OS9.0 (generic install disk) on my Intel Mini w/10.4.7 running. The installer updates the hard disk drivers and then starts the OS install then crashes. Hard disk image is 400MB, RAM was set to 256MB…
Anyone have any ideas to make it work???
-alex-
Aug 25th, 2006
bhaveshp
I’ve been running OS 9.0.4 on my Intel iMac for several months now and once set up properly, it works great. Stable enough for my needs.
* Networking fine. Both IE 5 & Current iCab browse perfectly in OS 9.0.4.
* Sound, games work - Arkanoid, Firefall arcade work just fine. Several of my kids edutainment CD’s work fine as well.
Two hardest parts of setting up:
1. Finding the correct ROM. Tip use the ROM file from here:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60408
Problem - you need to run TOME viewer in classic / OS 8-9 to extract the ROM from here.
2. Getting a proper boot disk. Sheepshaver runs 8.5, 8.6, 9.0 upto 9.0.4 fine.
Best instructions for set up & config (by Ronald) are here:
http://www.emaculation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3193
Aug 25th, 2006
Echilon
After 20 mins of downloading DLLs one by one, it still won’t start, and the ROM isn’t downloadable because it’s on rapidshare. Please upload it somewhere where people can download it.
Aug 25th, 2006
Steve
Roger,
I had this same problem. It will only create the virtual disk image at the root level of your HD. Don’t try to put it in another directory. Click Create, give the file a name (in the window that opens) and click OK.
Aug 25th, 2006
firewiredartist
Hey…bhaveshp
sounds great! The latest install disk, not from a computer purchase, that I own is 8.5 which is upgradeable to 8.6. A question about networking…
is your network running through a router? Wondering if 8.6 just doesn’t have sufficient resources. cheers
Aug 25th, 2006
torque2k
Well, I’ve had SheepShaver and 9.1 installed for about two months on a MacBook Pro 15″, and have been pretty happy with it. However, the biggest problem that I have is that you can’t stay connected to a server. Browsing works fine (iCab, IE) but using Chooser to connect to an AppleTalk share on an OS X Server 10.4 system is iffy. I can pull a directory from the share (albeit V-E-R-Y slowly), but if I try to download a file or open one, or even Get Info on one, the connection is severed.
So, not only can’t I grab files, I also can’t print to a networked printer, and I can’t run server-based apps like FileMaker Pro or TimeSlips. TS is the killer for me; my boss won’t let go of it, but I’m getting my iMac G4 replaced next week with an iMac Core Duo 17″, so I really need to get this ironed out.
Anyone else have these issues?
Oh, and “shared folders” with the OS X side are terribly implemented; losing resource forks, and folders show as files…
Aug 25th, 2006
torque2k
Erm, now that I think about it, I don’t have 9.1, just 9.0.4… sorry… :)
Aug 25th, 2006
gabriel
this is fantastic. finally i can use old programs such as EQS (statistical modeling software) that are not available on os X and never will be it seems.
i have a macbook pro with 2gig ram and i followed the instructions above and got some extra help here:
http://www.emaculation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3179
My wireless internet works flawlessly in 9.0.4 (available via p2p) and i can easily transfer files by using the chooser and appletalk to connect to my macbook pro just by throwing its ip address into the chooser. boom!
thanks!
Aug 26th, 2006
Echilon
Could someone please upload it somewhere other than Rapidshare, it doesn’t work for BT users.
Aug 26th, 2006
Julia Dee
Some Guy: When some writes an OSX audio editor as good Alchemy, an outliner as good as In Control, a combo bitmap/object-oriented draw program like SuperPaint, and makes a sheet scanner with a 2×9 inch footprint like PaperPort, I will be happy to abandon Classic. Until then, you don’t know wtf you are talking about.
To those having difficulties, here are some tips/basic principles I’ve manged to figure out (this thing is like solving RIven, fer cryin out loud. Is it too much to ask to supply decent minimal, step-by-step documentation?):
I have 8.6 booting. I used a general distribution CD and the ROM file from it.
- For the “volumes” thing, you need to do a “create” from within SS GUI. This will create some kind of file of the size you specify, but it’s not a disk image. I tried making a DMG and was able to install 8.6 on it, but could never get SS to boot from it. Anyway, after you’ve “created” the disk file (I gave mine a “.dsk” extension because that’s what the author did, I don’t know if it’s important) then you launch SS or press “Start” from SS GUI (the installer CD must be in the drive and mounted beforehand). Mac OS should boot, and it will say the disk is unreadable. The size indicated in the dialog should correspond to the size you specified in SS GUI, which should reassure you somewhat that it’s not going to erase your main drive. Give it a name (I used the same name I specified in SS GUI, again, I don’t know if it’s important). Go ahead and do the initialization. When Mac OS is done booting the created disk should appear on the Mac OS desktop. Run the installer (on the CD), using the disk image as the target. I turned off most installer options, including “update hard disk drivers”. Quit SS (Mac OS will ask if you want to shut down, say OK). Eject the CD, run SS, and Mac OS should boot from the disk image.
- The “UNIX Root” thing. This field in SS GUI translates to the “extfs” parameter in the prefs file (be nice if this was mentioned somewhere, huh). The author specifies a file in his recommended prefs (I think), which seems weird to me; I’d think it should be a directory. I’m obviously not a Linux geek. Anyhow, whatever directory this ends up pointing to becomes the root directory of the “Unix” volume that ends up mounted on the Mac OS desktop. People have warned not to just leave this field set at the default drive root, I’m not sure why. I’m also not sure what the point of this whole Unix drive is, because I can’t get anything from the two worlds to work together (see below).
MY PROBLEM - How do I get Classic Apps into the Mac OS environment such that they will work? The apps that came over from the installer disk launch fine. MY classic apps, copied from OS X into either the virtual disk or left in the Unix volume, appear as “documents” and will not launch. Conversely, if I copy one of the apps from the installer disk into the Unix volume (just for fun), OSX sees it as document and not a Classic app. WTF? Any help will be much appreciated, thanks.
Aug 27th, 2006
Jalex
On my intel mac mini (1gig ram) I can’t get myst 3 exile to run at full speed. I hope the next version will be faster.
Aug 27th, 2006
firewiredartist
Yeah Julia D…
amen…isn’t PaperPort the coolest…still have two of them in operation and can’t imagine not being able to use them, SuperPaint still in use, as well as Hypercard on a daily basis
I just don’t get why Apple doesn’t have a simple utility like SS to keep years of past work relevant and accesible
re: your problem
I am running SS on a G5 quad to test it under osX for eventual move to an intel machine…perhaps a laptop…so I don’t know that my install will create the the same scenario as yours, but the UNIX volume shows up on my 8.6 desktop and file transfer between the two works fine…in fact, since I haven’t been able to get networking to work, when I want to move a file from another drive to the os 8.6 desktop I first put it into My osX drive and then move it from the UNIX folder to my os 8.6 drive and everything docs and apps have worked fine
Aug 27th, 2006
Flick
I got 8.5 to install, but it won’t run after the installation. It just closes down halfway through. Any ideas?
Aug 27th, 2006
Gil Sicuro
Slow as hell and incredibly buggy, crashes for nothing. Far away from usable. Very poor integration with the host OS. Tip: if you want to exchange files to SheepShaver, first compress them using DropStuff (.sit) then move to SheepShaver then uncompress. Otherwise your Mac files will loose their resource forks and they will be unusable. I wonder if someone could make the actual Classic environment run under Rosetta…
Aug 28th, 2006
GuyLouis
Hi all,
Many users ask how to make network run.
No problem, when using the Serial/Network TAB of the GUI, roll the NetWork TAB and it will show you the word “slirp”. That’s all, folks!
Aug 28th, 2006
firewiredartist
GL…
configured as you say but cannot access network
Aug 28th, 2006
Flick
By the way, does anyone know if Works 4.0 will run on the Sheep Shaver classic?
Aug 28th, 2006
confused
i’m on an intel mac. i got to the part where you create a ‘virtual volume’ (i assume you can name it whatever you want and put it in the Sheep Shaver application folder?).
then i click on ’start’ and it tells me that I have an ‘unsupported ROM type’ (i downloaded the one that is linked in the instructions, not the one directly from Apple, but the other one).
what have i done wrong??? thanks for your help!
Aug 29th, 2006
Julia Dee
So… no one else has this problem of applications being seen as documents and not launchable? wtf…
I should have mentioned that I’m on an Intel MacBook.
Could it be because my apps are currently stored on an HFS+ volume? I did format the SS virtual disk as HFS…
I can’t try Gil Sicuro’s tip of stuffing and unstuffing because I can’t get an unstuff utility (or any other program except what came off the install CD) to run in the classic environment - Catch-22.
Julia
Aug 29th, 2006
Doc.
Having issues with the volume creation…
I go under “volumes,” click “create,” set volume size for 300MB, go down the file path to where my SheepShaver folder is located, and then press “OK.” After that, the volume creation window goes away, and there is nothing listed in the volumes list on the main window. I clicked “go” anyway just for the heck of it, and there was not volume available for use when I booted 9.0.4 successfuly. All I got was a window asking me if I wanted to reformat the disk that 9 couldn’t recognise, which was my laptop’s HD, which I didn’t want to change.
What am I doing wrong in the volume creation stage? Any ideas?
Using a MacBook Pro running 10.4.7.
Thanks,
Doc.
Aug 29th, 2006
Doc.
Please disregard above comment of mine. I reread the posts, and found the error of my ways. Sorry to cause any inconvenience.
Doc.
Aug 29th, 2006
Flick
Hi confused,
Are you using the OS 9 disk? Because I think the OS ROM only supports OS 9. I got 8.5 installed using the OS ROM downloaded from here, but Sheep Shaver keeps crashing halfway through reboot so I’m guessing it’s because I didn’t install the right OS to go with the ROM. Just a thought anyway.
Aug 29th, 2006
Ian Downie
Julia, transferring the applications may have stripped the type and creator off the applications, or you may not have transferred both the data and resource forks. I’m pretty sure OS 8.6 can cope with HFS+ so it almost certainly isn’t that.
There is a terminal command, a variant of the Unix cp, which will copy Mac files intact but you need to have the developer tools installed (join the Apple Developer Connection for free first if you don’t have these). It is called CpMac and preserves the resource fork when copying files. There is another one called GetFileInfo which will give you the type and creator of the file.
These tools are in /Developer/tools and to use them the easiest way is to change to that directory:
cd /Developer/tools
and then
./CpMac
or
./GetFileInfo
The simplest way to find the file path is to drag the application or destination folder as appropriate from the Finder into the Terminal window - its path will appear automatically, including the escape character \ in front of things like spaces and brackets.
There are other attributes listed for these tools - to find out how to use them, enter
man GetFileInfo
or
man CpMac
and Ctrl-Z to get out of the man command when you have read enough.
I’m talking theoretically here as I don’t have an Intel Mac yet because my most important application, which holds all my family history data, is Gene which runs under Classic and for which there seems little hope of an update, the developer having failed to answer my email asking for confirmation that he is going to do it. I hope this discussion leads to a clear path to being able to run Sheepshaver, at which point I will go Intel.
Here’s what I got when I ran GetFileInfo on Gene:
MyPowerBookG4Name:/Developer/tools myusername$ ./GetFileInfo /Applications\ \(Mac\ OS\ 9\)/Gene\ 4.3.4\ \306\222/Gene
file: “/Applications (Mac OS 9)/Gene 4.3.4 Æ’/Gene”
type: “APPL”
creator: “@GN4″
attributes: avBstclInmed
created: 04/29/2001 22:16:57
modified: 04/29/2001 22:16:57
If you find that type and creator are empty in your copy, that is what is wrong and you should use CpMac to do the copy. If there are entries, it could still be the case that CpMac will copy the application intact and you should use it to make your copy.
Of course this requires a certain amount of knowledge of how to use Terminal and maybe also of the Unix directory structure on your Intel Mac (the drag and drop path trick should help there as long as you can see both the application and where you want to copy it to).
Good luck
Ian
Aug 29th, 2006
jroryb
Julia,
Try burning your applications to a CD within OS X (and you might as well toss all of the other stuff on to the CD as well) and then having the CD in the drive before you launch sheepsaver. I would recommend using ResEdit to change the file type of your applications to APPL if they appear as docs (I too have this issue) . I have been transfering my files into the ‘unix’ share as selfextracting archives created using stuffit within osx (be sure to create .sit not sitx sea’s) but I still need to change the file type from within OS9 (9.0.4) to APPL as the LPPA file type won’t work. I also can’t get my network working completely (although I can see my server in the network browser) I can’t mount the server or see my laserjet.
I’m using:
system 9.0 updated to 9.0.4
the ROM from Mac OS ROM update 1.0
512MB RAM allocate to OS9 within the SSgui
a 2GB boot drive image
running on an iMac Core Duo
If I can’t get my printer to work I’ll try and use Adobe Acrobat to print pdf’s
I’ll keep pounding…
Aug 29th, 2006
RockDad
Two questions: I had MacOS 8.5 running last night just fine on the MacBook. This morning plugged in a SmartDisk USB floppy drive to install the first application. MacOS 8.5 started to boot up and then dropped from sight. I unplugged the SmartDisk, restarted the MacBook, which then did not complete its restart (had to re-power). Now McOS 8.5 starts to boot up and then drops from sight every time. Frustrating! Any advise? Also once (if) I get it re-going how do I install applications to it? Thanks
Sep 1st, 2006
Mazz
When i push start after i have done the settings in GUI, the system (i run 9.0) starts up, background with lots of “cd� pictures, and then the system ask me to
“inizilize the disc, because it cant be red by the computer�.
Can i safely push the botton to initalize? If i dont, i cannot install.
Picture of the screen:
http://static.flickr.com/88/223035818_48d6073187.jpg?v=0
Sep 2nd, 2006
Julia Dee
Thanks, Ian and jroryb, I’ll hie myself to Staples asap and pick up some CD-R’s. I have seen signs of the APPL vs LPPA thing, so that’s probably it, but I haven’t been able to run anything to change types/creators while in Mac OS. Don’t have anything that can make .sit files anymore either, I think the free version of Stuffit can only make .sitx right? I’ll look around for a Mac OS version of File Buddy or similar, I guess.
Sep 2nd, 2006
jroryb
I got my printing working (IP printing as I didn’t realize that appletalk isn’t functional under SS) In answer to the question from Mazz above — When you created a drive image within the SSgui it is a bare drive as far as OS9 is concerned; therefore it needs to be initialized by OS9 (use HFS Extended format), then you can instal OS9 on the “disk” you just initialized. RockDad probably needs to move his install stuff over to a CD from within OS X and then mount the CD within the SS OS9.
Sep 2nd, 2006
me
Get OS 9 retail:
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3498222/
Sep 2nd, 2006
Julia Dee
Progress! Putting my Mac OS applications on a CD worked! After copying them from the CD into the SS virtual disk they still launch, cool. Bad news is that audio playback from Alchemy is so stuttery that it’s useless, I guess I’ll be stuck with editing audio in OSX. Can’t open documents from the Unix volume, so I guess I’ll have to try the self-extracting or .sit archive trick. Does anyone know a free or inexpensive alternative to StuffIt Deluxe for creating .sea or .sit archives?
Sep 3rd, 2006
Brian
I tried this with the links to the ROM and OS provided, but SheepShaver doesn’t seem to read the disk. I burned the image to a CD but when I start up SS, it immediately ejects the disk, and flashes a disk w/ question mark. Anyone?
Sep 4th, 2006
jroryb
Julia,
I have another solution for you —> Create a blank drive image with DIsk Utility (this will be a .dmg) Make sure it is read/write and NOT SPARSE. Next, put the path to this image into the SheepShaver_prefs via the SSgui (as a volume)
BEFORE you boot SS, you can mount the image in OSX and put on any files/programs you want; then UNMOUNT the image from OSX. NOW boot SS. All of your stuff should appear WITHOUT any issues. DON’T have the image mounted by both OS9 and OSX at the same time… very baaaaaaaad so to speak.
Sep 5th, 2006
Julia Dee
Thanks, jroryb, but I can’t get it to work. I made the .dmg image (how do I know it’s not “sparse”? I can’t find anything in Disk Utility about sparse…), mounted it in OSX, put stuff in it, added it as a volume in SSGUI: “/Volumes/SSxfer/” (my image is called “SSxfer.dmg”) unmounted it, then launched SS. No sign of the volume in SS.
Sep 9th, 2006
Ken Ripley
I just got an Intel 17-inch imac and really need some of my system 9 applications. I downloaded sheepshaver and the rom, no problem. My problem is the startup disk.
I downloaded something calling itself “startup Disk 9.2.1smi”. Is that what I needed. If so, what do I do with the file to get the GUI to recognize and use it (no flashing ?)? Just burn that file on a disk or what? I need simple instructions in simple English.
Am I right in understanding that once installed by the gui component, all I need to do is use the regular sheepshaver for them on? And, frankly, then what? Do I load the applications I want to use in the folder, the virtual volume which I assume is created, or what? To then use, do I just go to volume and click on my application or do I need to launch sheepshaver each time?
Some help for this geezer would be appreciated. Answers can also be sent to my email: ripleykv@earthlink.net.
Thanks.
Sep 10th, 2006
yiwai
MacBook Pro 2.16/RAM2GB
SheepShaver 2.3-5.14/OS9.04J
Works fine, but problems with the following:
– Adobe Dimensions 3 causes a shutdown (SS sudden disappear) upon launch.
– Any Adobe installer with SVG (scalable vector graphics) causes severe freeze; SVG Viewer, Acrobat Reader 5.05, Acrobat 5.05, Photoshop 6, Illustrator 9.
– Cannot see AppleTalk printers (AppleShare is fine)
Sep 11th, 2006
judy
how do i get to display my sheep shaver classic window to display at full screen size? can’t change the size at all (neither through grabing and pulling the window nor through resizing it through os9 control panel - monitor)?
Sep 11th, 2006
jroryb
Julia,
If you are creating an image in Disk Utility and the Format drop-down says read/write disk image then the image is not sparse. Did you select the image within the SSgui?
For example, my drive path says:
disk /Users/Shared/SheepShaverMac/SS680Boot.dsk
disk /Users/Shared/SheepShaverMac/SS680Xfer.dmg
to my 2 drives
if you have a / at the end it implies a folder, not a file.
You might want to look at (or even edit) your .SheepShaver_prefs file
(in your home folder - normally invisible) with BBEdit or TextWrangler (free). MAKE A COPY FIRST.
Sep 11th, 2006
Patrick J
I successfully installed 8.5! However, I can’t get Classic versions of Civilization or Colonization to work. I remembered that there was a system extension called “FixCivInit”, which I installed in the extensions folder. But even after rebooting, it says the application needed to open the file can’t be found — even though it *is*, itself, an application.
Anyone else having these troubles, or have suggestions?
Thanks,
Patrick
Sep 12th, 2006
Julia Dee
jroryb, you ROCK, thanks! Yes, I was pointed at the (assumed) mounted volume ssxfer, not to the ssxfer.dmg file itself, that was the problem. At least now I can get things back and forth between the two OS’s, and print by using the PrintToPDF chooser extension. I can successfully mount the ssxfer image in OSX while it is mounted in Mac OS, but live transfer seems a bit iffy - it worked once but the second time the Mac OS file I’d just created wouldn’t show up in OSX, even after an unmount/remount. Mac OS boots so quickly under SS, however, that this is not too big of a deal.
Sep 12th, 2006
Patrick J
Got it! I read back through the postings. Copying things to a CD-ROM and then bringing them in through SS worked beautifully. My favorite dusty old games, on my sparkling new MacBook Pro!
Thanks, everyone!
Patrick
Sep 12th, 2006
jroryb
Julia,
I recommend you don’t have the drive mounted by both OS’s at the same time (ie don’t do what I tried while doing my testing and hose your drive image) It WILL kill the image. IF you have used an image this way I suggest you copy your files off of the image, trash the image, then make a new image with exactly the same name and put it in the same place and copy your files back. This is to avoid loss of data at some future inconvenient time. Also, while you are at it, make a CD or DVD with your boot drive image, SS, SSgui, your ROM image and your prefs file (if you open them with TextWrangler (it is in your home folder and starts with a period and is therefore invisible) you can save them somewhere WITHOUT the period so you can see/backup the file (it currently does have to have the starting period and be in the root of your home folder to work though) Add your ssxfer.dmg if you have space. All backed-up.
Sep 13th, 2006
Julia Dee
Glad you got it working, Patrick. If you follow the last bit of back-and-forth between myself and jroryb you’ll see that it’s not necessary to burn stuff to a CD.
Sep 13th, 2006
paulhjp
I can get SS to successfully start-up and install OS 9, if I pointed it to a DMG that I created in Disk Utility, BUT I could never get it to boot off that drive.
So, I had the SSgui create the drive, but now the OS 9 crashes SS.
Sep 14th, 2006
jroryb
I was never able to get SS to boot off of a .dmg drive created with Disk Utility either.
Did you install the OS onto the drive created by the SSgui? (I am assuming you must have)
… Curious; which ROM are you using?
And you are using an OS 9.0 install disc?
Is the SSgui set to boot from any disk (vs CD)?
How much RAM did you allocate to OS9?
Did you change anything else?
Did you remove the .dmg boot drive from the .sheepshaver_prefs file?
Sep 14th, 2006
paulhjp
No, I can’t get the OS to install on the drive created by the SSgui. SS crashes shortly after the install begins.
I’m using a ROM that I “tomed” off of a Mac OS 9 PowerBook.
I’m using a copy of a Mac OS 9.0 install disc - retail version.
The SSgui is set to boot from Any disc.
I have 512MB RAM allocated to OS9.
No other changes, other than the volume change.
Yes, I removed the .dmg from … no, wait, I removed it from the gui, but not from the prefs file. I’ll check that now… okay, I checked. It’s not in the prefs file any longer.
Sep 15th, 2006
jroryb
I can’t be sure this will work, only that it works for my setup — Try using the ROM from Mac OS ROM update 1.0 . You can download it free from Apple. Then use tomeviewer to extract the ROM . All must be done on an OS9 machine (MAY be able to be done in Classic) . I also never have spaces in ANY of my path names; meaning use underscores or dashes.
Example .sheepshaver_prefs file:
disk /Users/Shared/SheepShaverMac/SS680Boot.dsk
disk /Users/Shared/SheepShaverMac/SS680Xfer.dmg
extfs /Users/Shared/SheepShaverShare
screen win/1024/768
windowmodes 0
screenmodes 0
seriala
serialb /dev/null
rom /Applications/SheepShaver-2.3/Mac-OS-ROM
bootdrive 0
bootdriver 0
ramsize 536870912
frameskip 8
gfxaccel true
nocdrom false
nonet false
nosound false
nogui false
noclipconversion false
ignoresegv true
jit true
jit68k false
keyboardtype 5
ether slirp
keycodes true
keycodefile /Users/Shared/SheepSaverMac/Basilisk_II_keycodes
mousewheelmode 1
mousewheellines 3
dsp /dev/dsp
mixer /dev/mixer
ignoresegv true
idlewait true
Hope this helps.
Sep 15th, 2006
Jean
I got the same problem than Mazz.
When I push start after I have done the settings in GUI, the system (i run 9.0.4) starts up, background with lots of “cd� pictures, and then the system ask me to
“inizilize the disc, because it cant be red by the computer�.
Can i safely push the botton to initalize? If i dont, i cannot install.
I have created with the disk utility of Apple, a disk image in Mac OS Standard and extended format. Both mounted disk are not seen by the computer.
I don’t know what to do.
Jean
Sep 15th, 2006
Bix
I have the same problem reported here.
I created a virtual disk directly from SheepShaver2.3
Starting SheepShaver form a MacOS 9.0 CD I initialize the just created HD (extendend). After this, I start the OS installer but after that the installer start to install the system (after all the OKs and Agree) ShhepShaver simply quits.
This happens on an iMac Intel.
Any hints?
Sep 16th, 2006
Bix
UPDATE:
I deleted the .sheepshaver_nvram and .sheepshaver_prefs files after I restart the installer but, this time, I don’t uncecked “Update the HD dirves”.
The installer has done its works, and now I can boot from the system just installed.
Sep 16th, 2006
Jean
I finally created a virtiual disk from Sheepshaver2.3 and initialized in extended format but when I try to install the system from a MacOS 9.0.4 CD I got the following message: “This program cannot run on your computer” (MacBook Pro 17″).
What can I do now?
Jean
Sep 18th, 2006
paulhjp
I’ve tried “toming” the ROM from Mac OS ROM update 1.0 (from the Apple site), from and OS 9 machine, making sure there are no spaces anywhere as jroryb suggested. I verified my prefs file looks pretty similar.
SS still crashes when I try to do the install.
I re-created the disk, this time formatting it as extended. Crash upon install.
I deleted the nvram and prefs files. Crash upon install.
Went the DMG route again. Crash upon install.
Sep 20th, 2006
Pam
I used the ROM from Mac OS ROM update 1.0 and a system 8.6 install CD. It installed with no problems. My problem is when I try to boot without the CD, I only get the flashing ? I never saw the initialize disk message.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Sep 20th, 2006
Helen
“however with a little searching I found a ROM available to download, and fully compatible with Sheep Shaver here(link goes here http://rapidshare.de/files/30169965/Mac_OS_ROM.html)” This does not make sense to me as there is no textual language on the rapidshare.de page to indicate the software is Sheep Shaver compatible!
Help
Sep 21st, 2006
ddt
Has anyone successfully use PageMaker 6.5 with SheepShaver? This is important.
Don’t tell me to use InDesign, I have over 100 1meg files with PICT files in them, InDesign does not recognize PICT files. I resue these files every year and do not have time to redo all 100 files.
Sep 21st, 2006
Shawn
I am not a programmer, so a lot of this doesn’t make sense to me. It seems as if some steps are skipped in the description of how to make sheepshaver work. I have been able to follow the instructions up to the point where I’m loading the OS9 disk into the Intel Mac. at that point, it tries for a while, then ejects the disk and flashes a question mark. Any thoughts?
Sep 22nd, 2006
Richard
I wish it worked. I downloaded the ROM as Helen suggested. I tried OS 8.0, 8.6, 9.04, 9.02 (all German versions). None of them worked. Well, OS 8.6 sort of worked once, but every try after that led to a crash. I wish SheepShaver worked cause I would like to use my Russian programs which never made the transition to OSX. With the current version of SheepShaver, however, I am afraid I won´t be able to.
Sep 23rd, 2006
Tom
1) I use the Mac ROM Update 1.0 and SS runs a little more stable than others ROMs but still buggy and unstable.
2) Can’t communicate both worlds (Mac OS X and Classic from SS) and all your tries are very annoying to do and makes SS not a choice to emulate Classic under MacOSx86. AppleShare doesn’t works. Ethernet and Slirp doesn’t connect a folder to sharing and also File Sharing doesn’t works.
This is most great problem… files can’t be transfer in an easy way.
3) Internet WORKS. Can Navigate.
4) But crash, and crash, and crash…. :(
My solution is: PLEEEEEAAAASSSSEEEEEEEE!!!! CHRISTIAN BAUER AND MARC HELLWIG make a SheepShaver that can be use under Mac OSx86!!!! We need it :)))) Thank you :)))))))))
Sep 24th, 2006
JamesG
> OS 9 is the past, OS X is the future.
That’s fine from a political standpoint. But the reality is that people have invested thousands of dollars in their OS9 software and don’t want to just throw it away. This is not to mention the time spent learning these programs, workflow, efficiency, etc. Apple’s philosophy is that all of their installed consumer base should buy new hardware and software every couple of years. This just isn’t realistic. Maybe Steve or Woz can do that without hesitation, since they have untold billions of our dollars in their wallets.
Response to question:
If you have issues with apps showing up as documents in OS9 - try rebuilding the desktop. Startup the environment with the option and open-apple (command) keys down. When you get to the desktop, it will ask if you want to rebuild. Just click ok and wait.
Sep 25th, 2006
Eric
I followed the SheepShaver instructions to the letter, except that I used a disk image that I downloaded somewhere, which is definitely a legitimate cd of Mac OS 9.
I used the Basilisk keycodes file and the Mac OS ROM from the link in this article. When I start SheepShaver, I get the floppy disk icon with the blinking question mark. This is on a MacBook. What have I done wrong?
Is it the ROM file?
It would be so much easier if someone sent me a folder containing the completed OS 9.
Sep 25th, 2006
Helen
just to clarify something Richard, I was quoting the original post - not suggesting that people follow what I said. :) I’m just as confused as anyone else!
Sep 26th, 2006
Sean
I have installed SS and have is running OS 8.5 Everything works but I am unable to configure networking.
OS X 10.4.7 2Ghx Intel Core 2 Duo iMac (1GB RAM)
IP 10.1.1.26
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Pouter 10.1.1.1
I need to use ethernet to conect to a appleshare server (Airport would be nice as well) as well as a networked laser printer.
Any help will be very appreciated.
Sep 26th, 2006
Vickie Bullins
I am trying to download the rom so that I can run OS 9 on my new intel computer. After I have gone through all of the steps and click start on the sheepshaver GUI box, I get an error that says that the ROM size is invalid and blah, blah, blah. How do I fix this? What am I doing wrong? PLease help. I have been working on this a while.
thanks in advance
vickie
Sep 26th, 2006
Vickie Bullins
I am trying to download the rom so that I can run OS 9 on my new intel computer. After I have gone through all of the steps and click start on the sheepshaver GUI box, I get an error that says that the ROM size is invalid and blah, blah, blah. How do I fix this? What am I doing wrong? PLease help. I have been working on this a while.
thanks in advance
vickie bullins
Sep 26th, 2006
Vickie Bullins
Downloaded the rom from the link.Installed that and the sheep shaver .got to the screen hit the start button and the error message came up “rom file invalid sheep shaver needs 4MB PCI power Mac Rom. How do I fix?
Sep 26th, 2006
brian
I just got OS 9.0 up and running, but I don’t seem to have any sound. I checked in the control panels and the sound looks like it should be working. Fix?
Sep 29th, 2006
Susan
On my Intel MacBook Pro, I have gotten as far as installing OS 9.0 from my original CD. The installer launches in the SheepShaver window, but in the ’select destination’ window the Destination Disk selection is grayed out, and has the following message: “A valid destination volume can’t be found. To continue the installation process, mount a valid volume for software installation.”
Any suggestions?
Sep 30th, 2006
Willie
What do I do when I download that Mac OS?
Sep 30th, 2006
matt
Easily enough I was able to install os 9 per your instructions. I’ve installed a few of teh applications on the os 9 cd… but when i transfer files over from my main os x partition, they don’t take. i haven’t successfully unpackaged on sit file on this machine. How are you folks getting your programs installed?
Oct 1st, 2006
Abby Razer
I’m trying to install sheep shaver. So far I’ve downloaded sheep shaver 2.3 and selected the rom file but when I try to create a volume by clicking create nothing shows up in the list of volumes then if I click start it boots a 9.0.4 cd but the unix disk appears “broken” with a slash thru it so I can’t do the install. Any suggestions?
Oct 1st, 2006
ToniColor
@Abby Razer:
you should create a Disk-Image. Use the GUI, set up to 1500MB. You will be promted to initialize if you boot.
Hardest Thing for me to find out: I canot start SS from the GUI “Start”-Button. Once the Settings are done, you have to oben the application direktliy.
@Sean:
When running SS under OS X, you must configure “SLIRP” as Network in the GUI an in OS 9 set in Network Pref: “DHCP” automaticly. Conecting to Server or other Clients in the chooser use “Server-IP-Adresse”
@al:
Hardware: MacBookPro 17″ 2GB RAM
I am running OS 9.0.4 from an G4-Installation CD. When trying to install, I was promted “dosn’t work with your System”. So I copied the Systemfolder to the mounted System Disk. But: NOT THE VISIBLE FOLDER ffrom the CD!!! You can open the “Power Mac.img” in the “Konfiguration”-Folder on the CD and then do the copy…
My Problem:
I can’t configure my AppleTalk-Network. In the Settings there is no Apple Talk Zone available. I need to work with Filemaker 4 and I must print from it very often.
Please Help!
Toni
Oct 2nd, 2006
Joe
I have SheepShaver up and running, but the application that I prompted me to go down this emulation road in the first place, doesn’t show up on the ‘Unix’ disk - Corel WordPerfect. I have some important docs that I hadn’t yet converted and it won’t run on my MacBook. And it apparently won’t run under SheepShaver either. Does anyone know what the criteria are for apps that show up/don’t show up or run/don’t run under SheepShaver?
For Susan, I had the same message about no destination volume being found, but it’s a red herring. OS 9 has already been installed (somehow) in the volume you created if you followed the direction above. Eject your OS 9 CD, double click on SheepShaver (not the GUI) and OS 9 ought to start up.
Oct 2nd, 2006
Abby Razer
Thank you for the above suggestion. Now when I boot from the cd it asks to initialize….trys and says the disk is locked. Any ideas?
Oct 2nd, 2006
Harbinger
Solid, running a 2ghz MacBook Pro with 2gb of Ram. Made a 750mb disk image using Sheep Shaver. Installed 9.0.4. without much issue, using Disk Utility to make a disk image did not work.
Oct 11th, 2006
Steve H
Hi,
Just installed SheepShaver on a Probook w/INtel Chip. I used the ROM extracted from an Apple update, and installed OS 8.5 from a generic CD. Problem was that it would boot from the CD and install fine - but when trying to boot from the disk image(2GB, created with the disk utility that came with the Probook) it would crash instantly.
So I began to suspect that I needed to find a different way to create a disk image. I used a Powerbook G3 to create a 2GB disk image with the old OS9 disk utility, and transferred it to the Probook via a local network. That did the trick.
In theory, I suspect I could have placed the system folder from my old Mac into the disk image but haven’t tried yet. I can report that extracting a ROM file from the old Wallstreet G3 Powerbook did NOT work.
Steve
Oct 11th, 2006
Edward
I’ve installed Sheepshaver according to the instructions above, and everything seems to work well, except for one thing. When I copy the “Monkey Island” folder I used to have on Classic in my G5, clicking on the “Monkey Island” generic icon in the Finder window only produces a popup with this message:
The document “Monkey Island” could not be opened, because the application program that created it could not be found. Could not find a translation extension with appropriate translators.
My only choice is clicking OK. What can be done to solve this problem?
Oct 12th, 2006
Edward
No need to reply. I’ve found a bad solution and a better one. The bad one is using FileTyper or a similar program on Mac OS 9. That will rebuild the data fork anyway you like. The good solution is stuffing folders on Mac OS X, then copying the stuffed archive on to the Sheepshaver virtual disk, and then having Mac OS 9 unstuff the archive. This way the data fork isn’t damaged. Perhaps an upcoming version of Sheepshaver will automatically solve such things for us, together with less jerky sound.
Oct 13th, 2006
Tom
Great! Someone else who is going through this massively convoluted process - to try and play Monkey Island! Thought I was the only one..
Oct 15th, 2006
Magnus
Hi,
I Run 9.0.4 on ProMB. Works great. IP filesharing is stabile and fast.
Anyone got AppleTalk to work?
My problem: Cant find any servers automatically when choosing AppleShare, only via IP.
Same for AppleTalk printers. Cant find any.
Is there a way to make this work?
Oct 16th, 2006
Colin (Nylock10)
Thank you very much!
Everything worked great, I used a friend’s Mac OS 9 CD that he was going to throw away… Now I can play my old Classic Games I’m really happy thanks.
Oct 16th, 2006
Jamie
Can someone do me a HUGE favour and the link to http://rapidshare.de/files/30169965/Mac_OS_ROM.html won’t work for me as i’m on a Router and does not like it. So could someone upload it to somewhere else or send it to my addy: jh.saunders@btopenworld.com
Oct 19th, 2006
Mr Jones
The program keeps greating Floppy Drives and NOT hard Drives. This means that ever new volume I create is locked. Any ideas?
Oct 20th, 2006
Tim
I managed to load OS 8.6 but haven’t been successful in running any of my Classic applications on it. I drag an application program across from the UNIX disk to my virtual Classic disk and when I click the program it reads “The document “(name of application)” could not be opened, because the application program that created it could not be found.” Any suggestions on how to open programs dragged and dropped into this environment?
Oct 23rd, 2006
Jon
I’ve tried to install Mac OS 9 retail in Sheepshaver, however, when I press start button, the OS 9 disk eject automatically!! and a floppy with question mark flashes.
So what can I do?
Also, I can’t extract the 19 OS 7.5.3 files that I downloaded from Apple site. Can any one teach me how to do it?
Thanks a lot.
Oct 24th, 2006
ToniColor
I find it very sad, that here are only messages with problems and neraly NONE with solutions!
Are there no other Forums out there, whre someone can get HELP ???
Oct 25th, 2006
darkbodhi
One thing that wasn’t made really clear is that when you are creating the Volume, you have to give it a name. So when you hit the button “Create” you can choose where you want the Volume to be saved, but then after the last forward slash in the field that shows the path you are saving the Volume, simply type in a name (i.e. MacOS9.dmg). And then yes, initialize the disk when is asks after starting up OS 9, 8, or 7. Hope that helps some of you.
Now for a question. OS 8.5 is working great on my Intel MacBook Pro running OS 10.4.8, but the sound is very choppy, especially when running a specific game. I’ve downloaded all that I’m supposed to from the game’s CD, but the game CD must be in the CD tray to actually run. I’ve tried switching the sound preferences from stereo to mono, from 16 bit to 8 bit, from 44 Mhz to 11 Mhz, but all to not avail–in fact, even after I make the preference changes, the sound (when I can hear it) sounds no different than before I made the changes. Is there anyone out there who might know a fix to this problem?
Thanks,
darkbodhi
Oct 29th, 2006
Andrew McColl
Hi Everyone.
I’m not having much luck with this. I keep getting the following error:
Sheep Shaver Error:
Cannot map first Kernal Data Area: Permission denied.
I’ve tried moving the Sheep Shaver folder from my Applications folder to my Desktop and back again. I’ve tried MacOS 9.2.1, 9.0 and 9.04 install CDs. I’ve downloaded the pre prepared MacOS ROM. I’ve also tried creating one of my own using a clamshell iBook and Tome Viewer.
I’m running 10.4.7 on a 1.83GHz MacBook with 2GB of RAM.
And I get the above error message every single time. Does anyone have any suggestions on what Im doing wrong?
Andrew
Oct 30th, 2006
Tim
Question for Mr. Darkbodhi above. How did you get your programs to work in OS 8.5? I loaded 8.6 and only the programs that are part of 8.6 work. Nothing I dragged onto it from my UNIX disk boots up. The only thing I get is: “The document “(name of application)â€? could not be opened, because the application program that created it could not be found.â€? You or anyone else have any suggestions?… I’d like to find out how all you successful installers got this thing to work.
Nov 4th, 2006
ToniColor
@Tim
you must stuff the programms, copy to the xchange folder and then unstuff them on your new “old” System
Toni
Nov 6th, 2006
darkbodhi
Tim,
At first I had the same problem as you, but I read somewhere (maybe even further up on this list) that if you burn the files (.sit, .sea, etc.) to a disk and then install them from that disk while within the OS 7,8,9 environment, that will do the trick. So far, it has worked perfectly for me.
darkbodhi
Nov 8th, 2006
Amanda S.
I still get “This program will not run on your computer” when I use SheepShaver for the first time.
Nov 10th, 2006
N
Hi Everyone!
I need to buy a Mac laptop that is able to run Mac OS 9 as the programs I use for college only run on this. I tried to buy one of the old G4 iBooks but they’re now gone : ( and from what I am reading here none of the new laptops will be able to run this!! Are many of ye having luck with Sheep Shearer? I have been looking at the MacBook 2 GHz model with 1GB RAM. Anyone had luck with this model??
Thanks!
Nov 10th, 2006
Jodeo
Golly gee willickers - I hate to ask this, but…
I need to migrate my Atari ST files. Is there a good Atari ST emulator for the Mac?
Nov 10th, 2006
Sam
This is what happend to me: http://lam.hcchosting.us/sheepshaver.png
Nov 12th, 2006
Art
Some guy
2 months, 2 weeks ago
“Seriously guys, get with the times. OS 9 is old, worthless and outdated. OSX has been out over half a DECADE. If you are still using applications that run in OS 9 you have serious attachment issues. If you find one thing you like and expect to never move from it you should just stop using computers now.”
—Yeah….and the only problem with that way of thinking is that lotsa clients don’t use OSX yet. They hand you a file done in QuarkXPress 4 and something in FreeHand 7 or something even older. What Apple doesn’t seem to realize is that over half of its paying customers probably still use Classic. EVEN the service bureaus. That’s been my experience. They paid a lotta money for their apps and they don’t wanna throw ‘em away yet. So even if ya got they latest and greatest, quite often, yer clients don’t, dude. Yew gotta give whatever the customers want. And often times, they aint uptadate. So ya need that Classic environment. I still have a G5. In fact, I haven’t bought into the Intel environment yet, because it isn’t mainstream yet. It’s really still the fringe, and ya have to wait till the 90% catches up ta the ‘In’ Crowd (the 1-2%of MacUsers out there with Intel machines).
Nov 13th, 2006
Troll Slayer
STFU troll. I maintain applicatons that still have megabytes of resources in ResEdit-based resource files. Right now, I have absolutely no way to edit these files on an Intel based Mac. ResEdit is a Classic app and it won’t run.
I can’t get Sheepsaver to run properly. It crashes too much. But if it did work this would save me hundreds of hours of work porting these files to interface builder and changing all my code to access them from nibs.
I hate sanctimonious p****s like you who have nothing better to do than pollute forums and trash products that other people have a desperate need for.
Nov 15th, 2006
Tom